Nick, Rei, Eric, and Kurabara are back to talk about how everyone has been enjoying (or not) the 12.0 pre-patch leading into Midnight. Rei starts by letting us know how she is holding up in Minnesota. Then she talks about Legion: Remix and everyone discusses how it suddenly ended early on the last day. They also talk about some of the achievements that could or could not be finished. Next, they talk about running some of the new builds of characters in retail to test their characters after the ability pruning. They also talk about Neighborhood Endeavors and how those are working for everyone.

Next, Eric talks about how he does not like stat squishes, but he did enjoy running Heroic Manaforge: Omega this time. He and Kura also tested the Devourer Demon Hunter spec.

Kurabara talks about how his Death Knight did not have many abilities pruned. He also brings up how timewalking scaling was broken and now those dungeons are harder. Everyone discusses the new transmog system and the problems with how that was rolled out. Kura says he is looking forward to the pre-patch event starting.

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Hosts

Nick Zielenkievicz

Host of WoW! Talk! and The Tauren & The Goblin. Sometimes known as the Video Games Public Defender. Wants to play more Destiny and Marvel Heroes but WoW is all-consuming. Decent F2P Hearthstone player. Sad that he lost the Wii that had Wrecking Crew on it. Would be happy if the only game ever made was M.U.L.E. Gragtharr on Skywall-US. Garresque on Ravencrest-US.

Rei Liou

Rei is the 1 of the 5 SEELE members and the Ops Director at MTB. She enjoys anime, baking, cooking, gaming ( fighting, puzzle, rhythm, RPGs ), and spending WAY too much time working on spreadsheets. Current Games: Tales of Crestoria, WoW

Eric Knutson

Auto mechanic, car enthusiast, gamer, runner and almost never serious, Eric has been ditching responsibilities and gaming since age 7. His favorite genres are FPS and racing, although most of his game time is currently spent on WoW

Cory Treadway

Cory has been gaming ever since he fished an NES out of a trash can. A broad gamer who enjoys everything from FPS, Racing, RPGs, MMOS, RTS, World Building, Puzzles, Dating, Horror, Cooking, Sports. If its a game I will give it a try.

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